Ercoupe Crosswind Component. (The three-control airplanes are usually found in heaps on the downwind sides of runways after mishandling, a primitive form of segregation, perhaps.) This video is unavailable. These days, by nature of its design, the Ercoupe/Aircoupe doesn’t come across as having an abundance of testosterone, so what may be the funkiest two-place airplane from the 1940s is a bit of a sleeper on the used market. Topics Toggle Dropdown. Crosswind landing Technique--right after touchdown. Between Toggle Calendar. Go figure…”, Another pilot mentioned that he read somewhere, “…that people who do this are often trying to put the center of the plane on the center line. Joined: Feb 22, 2005 Messages: 9,488 Display Name: Display name: Ben. Tech@Ercoupe.groups.io; Topics × Close Search. The wind was not strong but it was variable. I figured I would head to the airport and give that advice a try. Flying Proficiency. Fatal stalls dogged the light airplanes of the day, as did botched crosswind landings and ground loops. TAKE-OFF in the Club-Air was accomplished in 12 seconds from a standing start and crosswind. Sign in here for member only content! filter. Questions are asked and answered, ideas are presented and commented upon, and a good time is had by all. Search Cancel. One minute 58 seconds later, the ship was at an altitude of 1000feet, its climb averaging out at 500fpm at 65 mph at 2175 rpm. (You should see the “bouncing” on a gusty day. Whatever method one uses down final, the actual landing is on the upwind wheel. Jonas says: November 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm I love this video, and am planning to get … The wind picked me up and pushed me over the taxiway where Josef was crossing. Better yet, an Ercoupe can handle a crosswind of twice the velocity that can be dealt with by almost any other airplane. This is a 2-3 hour job. One member expressed his Biggest Landing Challenge as not always landing on the centerline of a runway. It was first manufactured by the Engineering and Research Corporation (ERCO) shortly before World War II; several other manufacturers continued its production after the war. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Messages; Expanded; Polls; Hashtags #59-5-4; #AV-30 - uAvionics AC-30 certified multi-function AI/DG; #donation-request; #monthly-notice; Search. It really did seem to help a bit with putting the centerline in front of “me” – rather than where I perceived the center of the airplane to be. Normal height of the vertical stabilizers is 75 inches. You are here: Home. But the funny part is that many of us already have to look back to some crosswind landing in an Ercoupe to find the one we made with the most crosswind! For reference to that mumbo-jumbo, just look at the head-on shot in the head of this page (at the top). I hit the power and went over him. You mention that the Ercoupe is tricky to land in a crosswind but that is not accurate. Though the main landing gear is sturdy, it is not abnormally strong and certainly doesn't "swivel." These are always fun airplanes to fly! I stated: Don’t want to get into the “changes” and challenges of going from the C-172 in which I was re-learning how to fly – to doing my BFR “stuff” in my newly purchased Ercoupe. à|gi™|§¥½ƒ>n4Kãò4π. In the Ercoupes with linked rudders/ailerons, in a cross-wind, the airplane is landed in a wing-level crab. Ercoupe drivers often fly in crosswind conditions that ground Piper, … Learn how your comment data is processed. What I read was written by some instructor who suggested the solution to this particular problem was telling the pilot to put themselves on the center line rather than the center of the plane.”. The Ercoupe has no separate rudder control so you have to crab into a crosswind and land sideways; the plane will straighten up on its own. Crosswind Landing the Ercoupe at Harford County Airport. Weick gave his Ercoupe tricycle landing gear and trailing-link main gear to help make challenging landings tamer, and he limited elevator up-travel to help reduce the potential for a stall. The other day I was perusing a thread entitled, “Biggest Landing Challenge? Takeoffs are Optional, Landings are Mandatory, Landing the Ercoupe on the Runway Centerline. Another pilot stated that he, “…consistently lands left of centreline on wider runways. Then I bought a 7KCAB Citabria. Over the years, the Porters’ Ercoupe has taken them on a lot of adventures. At their first attendance of the National Ercoupe Fly-in in Minden, Nebraska, Bob demonstrated the remarkable crosswind landing ability of the airplane by landing on the north/south runway while the winds were 25 knots straight out of the east. That created only a slight crosswind component for Runway 28, which can be seen in the angle of crab during the later part of final approach. IMO, is being able to “FLY” the airplane, not just “drive it” around. In my case, the new plane is an Ercoupe, which is a “fun” aircraft and a joy to fly. Breadcrumbs. Landing a new (new to me) airplane requires a slightly new skill set, or a period of transition from another airplane to the new one. We were about to put my recently-purchased Ercoupe to the test, although not quite that severe of a test. ëóÔé4»Îv:¸t»Ü›/ˆ§P7l-¬_Q¯!ãöZ–pYҋü÷,X°$bž[ƒ´Ù΃“6çŸ×w³Nß½‚Kñ?ÐpÚ»0¾§t’d³’^§ô:¡öû('4›M®lQ&7çitj„Æȕq6¦&R{]ù\¬é4…¡FùÖçv>½µvLò1-Ó¸¼¥Û"§]Õ}N«ÛÂZzÏ ERCO’s model 415 “Ercoupe” had a distinctive twin-tail design, which many thought was intended to reflect highly successful American twin-tailed aircraft of World War II (such as the B-24, B-25 and P-38). Your email address will not be published. Crosswind Landing the Ercoupe at Harford County Airport. I thought (Actually, the crosswind takeoff is more of an experience.) Otherwise, you will join the ranks of the embarrassed who have departed the upwind side of a runway while negotiating a crosswind in an Ercoupe. Turn the camera on and the wind swings around – go figure. However, good airmanship. It wasn’t a radical change – just slightly different perspective on lining up for touchdown. Going from the 172 to a plane with the wing in the right place (change in perspective), no rudder pedals (no problem with that), but no flaps and a Hershey Bar shaped wing with a sink rate similar to a sack of potatoes – all belongs in a thread (and/or blog post) of its own. Landing a new (new to me) airplane requires a slightly new skill set, or a period of transition from another airplane to the new one. For perspective on the camera angle…the camera is wedged in next to the compass and is about 3 inches to the right-center of the windshield. Not a lot, but always.” He went on to say that on narrow runways he always lands dead-center. But this is a first attempt and I used a cheap Flip Video… Read More » Bill Nov 09, 2008 4 Comments. Already a member? Ercoupe 415-C FOR REFERENCE ONLY Page 5 Ercoupe 415-C FOR REFERENCE ONLY Page 20 KOCH CHART CARBURETOR ICE REFERENCE CHART Light Signal Ground Flight Green (steady) Cleared for Takeoff Cleared to Land Green (flashing) Cleared to Taxi Return for Landing Red (steady) STOP Give way to others Before climbing into the Ercoupe, it was necessary to lower the two side panels which, when closed, meet at the very top of the cabin. Otherwise, you will join the ranks of the embarrassed who have departed the upwind side of a runway while negotiating a crosswind in an Ercoupe. I jumped in addressing “my” centerline idiosyncrasy: “Sooooo…I seem to have developed an opposite “syndrome” at the home-drome. OK, so I did a few TOLs yesterday – working up an appetite for that Thanksgiving Dinner. I applaud you for your judgment on landing at another airport with more favorable wind conditions. Discussion in 'Pilot Training' started by spiderweb, Mar 17, 2011. That was a lot of ‘coupes! When I first got my PPL, I knew I was a little weak in crosswind landings. Watch Queue Queue That video (and listening to ATC) gave me goosebumps, brought me back to my visit to AirVenture in 2008. I am using a paved runway of 2000 x 40 feet; and I am consistently left of centerline. Not far left, nearly always just a little bit left. We got to Martin State (KMTN) and heard the info for Runway 15, winds 22 kts at 240. Here is a short video of one of those landings…, It was a beautiful day – cool, crisp and clear. Reminder: Order new business checks today! Keep in mind that this is with NO RUDDER PEDALS. Required fields are marked *. I flew for nearly an hour and the wind was mostly a crosswind from the west, so in the video I was setting up for a slight drift to the right on final. In my case, the new plane is an Ercoupe, which is a “fun” aircraft and a joy to fly. At that exact moment in time, … Username. OK, flying the Ercoupe on a windy day is easy but getting the video “right” was not. Not a member yet? 3 Comments Pilot Bob says: February 19, 2009 at 10:59 am WOW! Talk about x-wind fears! Your email address will not be published. ?” on the Purple Board for Pilots. However, fly over to Martin State (MTN) with it’s 7000 x 180 foot runway – and I easily straddle the center paint. . A quick repositioning trip in a 1946 Ercoupe. Ercoupe and the Enterprise User Menu. Any Time Any time; Past hour; Past 24 hours; Past week; Past month; Past year; Custom range... × Close Custom Range. Create an account ; Forgot your username? ErCoupe landing on a hot day. And I had about 5 hours of CAVU weather before we were scheduled to be at our Daughter’s home for Thanksgiving Dinner. A while back, on a fairly windy and bumpy day, I was working on finishing up my BFR. Ercoupe Owners Club for owners of Ercoupes, Forneys, Alons and Mooney M10's ... new main landing gear doughnuts may be required, perhaps spacers will also be needed to bring the height up to normal. Flight Review for learning in a fun flying sort of way, Jinx is Broken at Butter Valley Golf Port in Bally PA, Ercoupe Airplanes Love Landing on Grass Runways, Back in the Saddle Again – Ercoupe Saddle That Is, Crosswind Landing the Ercoupe at Harford County Airport, Ercoupe Owners Club members meet for lunch. (The three-control airplanes are usually found in heaps on the downwind sides of runways after mishandling, a primitive form of segregation, perhaps.) However, the x-wind died out at ground level and the Ercoupe straightened out just before contacting the tarmac. We always get a bit of turbulence on final for 28 because of the mixture of trees, fields and buildings. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. But this is a first attempt and I used a cheap Flip Video… Read More » Bill Nov 09, 2008 4 Comments. The other day I was perusing a thread entitled, “Biggest Landing … Crosswind Landing the Ercoupe at Harford County Airport. Basic flying characteristics are the same as modern aircraft with one exception. The wind was about 10-12 knots with gusts to 18 or 20 and from a direction of 300 degrees. The Purple Board for Pilots, for those not familiar with it, is an online community for pilots to share experiences and commeradarie. Flying Proficiency. If the tail height is below 68 inches, the doughnuts should be replaced. The fuel indicator (you can see the shadow move) is about 4 inches to left of center. The ERCO Ercoupe is an American low-wing monoplane aircraft that was first flown in 1937. 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